[Ongeluk] Franse kitesurfer overleden...

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Juli 15, 2011, 15:16:49
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In dit topic hadden ze het er al een beetje over:
http://www.kitehigh.nl/forum/index.php?topic=40687.0

Heb hier nog wat extra info gevonden, maar wat ik opmerkelijk vind is dat Nederland twee x genoemd word op een buitenlands forum als zijnde gevaarlijk bij harde wind.

R.I.P. fellow kitesurfer...

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My sincere regrets go out to this man's family and friends at this tragic time.

"A kite-surfer who died on the beach Jaï

Published Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.

A kite-surfer, 42, a native of Lyon, was killed on the beach in Marignane Jai at 11:30 this morning. Reportedly, he was a novice and has ventured on the beach while the wind was blowing at 35 or 45 knots. He was trying to manipulate his kite on the beach when he was swept away by a storm which has thrown up on the road, a drop of more than ten meters high. Polytrauma Respiratory and cardiac arrest on arrival of firefighters, it could not be revived despite CPR."

This is an Internet translation of:

"Un kite-surfeur décédé sur la plage du Jaï

Publié le jeudi 14 juillet 2011 à 14H16

Un kite-surfeur de 42 ans, originaire de Lyon, a trouvé la mort sur la plage du Jaï à Marignane à 11h30 ce matin. Selon nos informations, il était novice et s'est aventuré sur la plage alors que le vent soufflait à 35 voire 45 noeuds. Il était en train de manipuler son aile sur la plage quand il a été emporté par une bourrasque qui l'a projeté jusque sur la route, soit une chute de plus de dix mètres de hauteur. Polytraumatisé et en arrêt cardio respiratoire à l'arrivée des pompiers, il n'a pu être ranimé malgré un massage cardiaque."

http://www.laprovence.com/actu/region-en-direct/un-kite-surfeur-decede-sur-la-plage-du-jai

He was reportedly on a 6.5 m kite from some of the kite forums. There is some confusion about his level of experience there and about his intent to go in the water or not. Strong conditions were on seems clear enough. I would be grateful for accurate information about what happened.

I understand there have been four severe accidents in the Netherlands in the last few days, also related to high winds. Strong winds are on and people are getting themselves messed up sometimes rigged too big at others in conditions beyond their experience from reports. Free will is one thing, free will to needlessly harm yourself in extreme conditions and our access at the same time is quite another. This trend suggests there will be more accidents like this until this weather system passes. Why is this necessary?
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Sorry to hear this...my condolences.

30+ knots is dangerous...many people don't understand it.
I hear so many reports from accidents in Holland in stronger winds, that at one point the government will act...let's hope not to radical!

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Rest In Peace

It is so sad when this happens...


http://www.glisspass.com/free-style/un- ... ge-du-jai/

French to English translation
A 42-year novice from the evidence, was swept away yesterday by a gust of wind.

Is it the fault of the mistral wind from the ugly north, blowing 35noeuds (70km / h) with peaks of 45 (85 km / h)? Or rather that of imprudence? Weather conditions yesterday were only the very experienced kite surfers were out on the water, in the opinion of everyone we met on site after the tragic accident that claimed the life of one of them, around 11:30, the town of Marignane.

Reportedly, the victim, a 42-year Lyonnais, came on the very popular spot with a friend Jai. He was on the beach and was being manipulated his wing. It was not even back in the water when he was swept away by a violent storm. The kite surfer was then propelled to a height of 10 meters, over a hedge of tamarisk, before falling further, on the ground.

With multiple injuries, he was unconscious in cardiopulmonary arrest. A witness at the scene, a nurse civilian would have tried to perform the first cardiac massage. Then there are the firefighters who marignane took over. But alas, the man did not survive. This had the effect of leaving the water almost every other kite ... Have they suddenly become aware of the seriousness of the environment? The first acts of the victim on the beach were suddenly think of four kitesurfers Grenoble, used to practice on the spot Jaï but were not direct witnesses of the scene, the man was a novice.

"When you're experienced, we will immediately on the water, that way if you're away, it activates the device that allows the wing to drop," confided one of them. For them, it is important to note that "the kite is not a dangerous sport if undertaken in good conditions." Do they think that training should be mandatory? "A basic course, perhaps, but it's complicated," they say. Pascal gives his personal experience: "Me, I'm eight years and I have too much sail for the wind, then there, I expect it to drop."

That's the problem points since the beginning of the summer the maritime prefecture of the Mediterranean. Yann Tainguy the prefect and the head of Eric Lefevre CROSSMED have once again reminded that the most serious accidents are often caused by risky behavior, with pitifully trained amateurs who believe they can control everything. Physical fitness is one of the major conditions of good practice water sports in summer.

After diving accidents, kitesurfing has been pointed to as part of the campaign for the prevention of water hazards. Twenty deaths were recorded in the Mediterranean since 1 January, two in kitesurfing. The CROSSMED lamented last year 25 dead and 5 missing. "In the Mediterranean, the wind kills! "Reminded the maritime prefect on June 8. He also stated that an athlete must both control their business, know the environment to better understand the dangers and know yourself, that is to say not to assume its forces. Three major commands in the daily conduct to hold.

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Antwoord #1 Juli 15, 2011, 15:29:04
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Beetje wind en het is weer raak RIP
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Antwoord #2 Juli 21, 2011, 12:21:31
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Dit nog geript van een ander kite forum:

On the 14th July a French man 42 years married with a child died.
It seems that he was a beginner who has been playing with a 6.5 meters F-one Bandit on a narrow beach for 15 minutes with a 30 knots wind.
He was hold at the harness handle by his friend a 4 years kiters.
A some point he lost control of the kite, wnet strait to the near by rocks and die at the hospital.

There have a been a strong debate on the french forum:
http://forum.flysurf.com/bar/accident-au-jai-14-7-t61897.html

Someone in the forum pointed out the responsability as:
1) The victime => But if he was a beginner I doubt that he really understoud the risk.
2) Tis friend => after 4 years of kitting, you can resonnably expect that he would know that playing on the beach with 30 knows is dangerous independently of the size of the kite.
3) The fellow kiters on the beach => someone should have step in and tell two guys that were playing with fire.

This made the news on the french TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBBMWnpwfcM&feature=player_embedded


Independently to the tragic lost for his family, this should remind everyone that it is our responsability to step in if we see a potential dangerous behaviour.
This is even in our self interest because stories like this making the news may trigger kite ban. This statement may sound horrible for some but at the end of the day, the important thing is to prevent accidents.

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Antwoord #3 Juli 21, 2011, 14:03:37
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Wat een verhaal weer. Met 30kn met een Bandit 6.5 (dat is dan een uno, weinig van gemaakt) spelen op het strand is natuurlijk vragen om moeilijkheden Tongue

Zonde om zo aan je eind te moeten komen...
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Antwoord #4 Juli 21, 2011, 15:08:27
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R.i.p

Zo triest om te lezen... Helemaal als je leest dat hij met, een vriend op het strand en in 30 kts+ aan het oefenen was. Dramatisch voor die ervarener vriend, maar als het echt op de beschreven locatie en omstandigheden, heeft plaatsgevonden, vind ik hem een ongelofelijke sukkel, eerste klas, en medeverantwoordelijk. Sorry ik kan het niet laten.
Krijg kippenvel van dit soort berichten... Maw ik kan niet begrijpen dat mensen zo ontiggelijk stom zijn! Een ongelukje zit vaak in een klein hoekje... Dit is geen ongeluk meer!
Maar hierbij weer een boodschap naar de kite school die op autoplaya bezig was: dit had jullie maandag ook kunnen overkomen... Je cursist met een kite in dat soort omstadigheden (wind >35kts +)met kite naar de kant laten lopen, vervolgens verliest die kontrole en wordt ook ergens neergekwakt, het liep wonder boven wonder heel goed af!. Beseffen jullie niet dat jullie door het oog van de naald gekropen zijn, en bessefen jullie niet dat jullie bijdragen aan de zeer gevaarlijke situaties op het water??? Ok playa heeft geen rotsen... Maar wel PALEN!
Sorry dit is waarschijnlijk niet de plek voor dit soort berichtgeving. Maar moest het ff kwijt.
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